Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby mogliettina on 25 Oct 2008, 13:46

I never dreamed that in my lifetime I would see a Black President before a woman or a Jew.
There is hope for the world! 8-)
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby lulu on 26 Oct 2008, 14:15

Nyoka:

No one's one the election yet. Anything can happen.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby mogliettina on 27 Oct 2008, 16:22

lulu wrote:
nyoka:

You might also try spraying it with water or cd cleaner and dry with a cloth. It has helped me many times, especially with dvds from Netflix with I try before returning the disc back to Neflix.


mogliettina wrote:
Seriously? I never heard of such a thing.
I guess it's worth a try. Thanks Lulusheen.
Nyoka

As I'm sure Lulu knows but simply forgot to mention, when wiping the CD clean and dry after the spritz of lukewarm water (and it's a good idea to use nothing more exotic than lukewarm water), be certain you do NOT wipe the CD in a circular direction, but at right angles to it (i.e., from disc center to edge).

Just a word of caution.

ACD


Well, you nice do-gooders, Lulu and ACD: I appreciate your advice, even to using the distilled water BUT... it didn't work. Poor Montserrat sounds like she is hiccupping, and along with that comes this annoying fast ticking sound like a time bomb might be going off. To top everything, I have yet to hear back from the person I purchased it from on Amazon. So now I have to take the next step and report it to Amazon so I can my money back or a properly working CD. :roll:
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby lulu on 27 Oct 2008, 16:55

ACD was right; I did forget to mention that "small" detail. :oops:

However, it doesn't work all the time, especially if the disc is damaged. But it's always worth trying.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby fradale1 on 28 Oct 2008, 14:32

Yes, he has run a very good campaign and artfully disguised his socialist political philosophy - but can anyone tell me what Barack Obama has accomplished that qualifies him to be the next president, and one who will lead this country during a time of war and economic crisis?
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby calvert on 28 Oct 2008, 20:07

Unbelievable. Another conservative. With me, that makes two. I've been lonely since Maestrissimo's passing.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby A.C. Douglas on 28 Oct 2008, 20:32

fradale1 wrote:[C]an anyone tell me what Barack Obama has accomplished that qualifies him to be the next president, and one who will lead this country during a time of war and economic crisis?

What qualifies Obama to be the next president and do what's required of a president is that he's not a Republican.

That's more than sufficient reason to vote for him.

ACD
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby mogliettina on 28 Oct 2008, 21:28

Unbelievable. Another conservative. With me, that makes two. I've been lonely since Maestrissimo's passing.


But look at all the really neat people who are on the other side. Gives you food for thought. You might think of defecting. :P :idea:
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby kashania on 28 Oct 2008, 22:34

Actually, I hope there are more than just two conservatives on this forum. I like hearing the other side and a one-sided argument is no fun. Not that I disagree with Mogs about defecting. 8-)
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby pczipott on 28 Oct 2008, 22:45

If minacciosa were to join the fray, you'd have three conservatives.

Whatever hope McCain had for my vote, was impaled on Palin.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby calvert on 28 Oct 2008, 23:48

mogliettina wrote:But look at all the really neat people who are on the other side. Gives you food for thought. You might think of defecting. :P :idea:


There are indeed a lot of really neat people on the "other side." And I'm quite capable of enjoying and appreciating them without jumping into bed with them, ideologically speaking. (As I think our relationship has demonstrated quite clearly.)

Come to think of it, Pepper, there are a lot of "really neat people" on MY side. (Just not too many of there around here.) Why don't YOU think of defecting? More food for thought.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby bricon on 28 Oct 2008, 23:57

fradale1 wrote:can anyone tell me what Barack Obama has accomplished that qualifies him to be the next president, and one who will lead this country during a time of war and economic crisis?


Call me old fashioned.

Wouldn’t it be preferable to have a leader who managed to stay out of wars and could manage the economy so that it didn’t lurch from economic crisis to crisis to begin with?

I’m just askin’.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby pczipott on 28 Oct 2008, 23:59

So who's the conservative?

This, from the NY Times today: "Senator John McCain’s tax and spending proposals would create larger annual budget deficits than those of Senator Barack Obama, analysts say." This analysis seems corroborated by The Economist (hardly a bastion of liberal economics).
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby ScottMorrison on 29 Oct 2008, 06:25

The tone of this discussion is a welcome change from the tone, mostly created by the conspiracy-crazed 'wack jobs', over at the CMG.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby mogliettina on 29 Oct 2008, 07:52

Cal said:
Come to think of it, Pepper, there are a lot of "really neat people" on MY side. (Just not too many of there around here.) Why don't YOU think of defecting? More food for thought.


I guess it comes down to what one's opinion is of "really neat people", eh?
Frankly, before I defected, I'd sooner put an "a" between the "c" and the "t"! :lol:
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby lulu on 29 Oct 2008, 10:03

Just remember, it's on the GOP watch we've had Katrina, the war, this economic meltdown (since regulatory agencies were not encouraged to do what they are supposed to do; FDA being gutted, bringing us lethal heparin, tainted toothpaste (fatal elsewhere), toxic toys, etc. Packed courts (boy, didn't the GOP throw a fit when they accused FDR of doing the same thing, trying to privatize SS, the GOP was against Medicare, Medicaid or anything else that benefits the average working person; loss of jobs oversease due to greedy executives who pocket millions of dollars in pay rather than paying decent wages. Cheaper to ship jobs overseas without any oversight on goods foisted on public. The list is endless. I also blame Dems for failing to stand up to GOP and for betraying their core base.


Oh, and the GOP brought in the looney-tunes right-wing religious element, tearing down the wall between separation and state and basically tearing to shreds the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I could go on and on but I think I've said enough. You can't convince conservatives because they don't give a damn. Anyone who disagrees with them brings death threats, murder of doctors who perform abortions, pharmacists who use their religion to deny medicines to people who need them because THEY have decided they don't believe in it thereby refusing to fill needed prescriptions. Those who go against wishes of patients regarding their right to die in dignity thereby keeping them alive against their will. fighting to keep alive a baby born without a brain stem. (Anyone remember that incident?) Brainless idiots who fired a teacher for exposing their children to dangerous material like Gounod's Faust or taking a children to a musuem and exposing them to nude statues, thousands of years old. However, those same morons let their children go to violent movies, play violent games, buy them overpriced toys rather than exposing them to books (well, books that they don't want banned from the public library.)

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby kashania on 29 Oct 2008, 11:09

Obama's chief strengths are his vision and his judgement. I agree that his experience is thin, which is why I was a Hillary supporter and thought that Obama would make a terrific VP. But having Biden at his side (his big mouth aside) will be very beneficial in terms of covering off Obama's areas of inexperience.

Palin is a nightmare and, despite being billed as a breath of fresh air, represents everything that is wrong with policiticians as far as I'm concerned (energising supporters by appealing to the lowest possible common denominator and resorting to cheap shorts whenever possible). She has destroyed McCain's candidacy.
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It's Time To Stand Up And Be Counted — Literally

Postby A.C. Douglas on 29 Oct 2008, 11:41

Below is an exclusive preview of a post that will go up on S&F this coming Sunday.

I confess I've voted in a federal election exactly once in my life — in 1960 when I enthusiastically cast my vote for that other "too intelligent," "high-minded ... speechifier ... capable of thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now" as New York Times Conservative columnist David Brooks, describing Barack Obama, put it some time ago: John Fitzgerald Kennedy. When he was murdered, my hope for America was murdered along with him, and no candidate since seemed capable of filling the void.

Until now, that is.

I further confess that, this year, even had the Democrats nominated Mickey Mouse as their candidate, I would go to the polls for the first time since 1960 come 4 November, and cast my vote for him. But as things stand now, and barring anything unimaginably untoward being revealed between now and then, I can go to the polls this 4 November and cast my vote for the Democrat candidate with a perfectly clean conscience and a new sense of hope for America. It's not that I agree with everything Mr. Obama has to say. It's rather that it's become crystal clear to me that he has what it takes to be a genuine leader, even a great one: a charismatic, riveting podium presence; a sharp, intuitive, and practical political sense; and clear-eyed, imaginative intelligence to spare. Those are the three required, fundamental, and unacquirable gifts. Whatever Mr. Obama might lack in specific experience and expertise on the myriad urgent matters now facing this country can be rented or bought as needed whenever and wherever required.

So, cheer up!, America. Things are looking up. All you need do is to cast your vote for Mr. Obama come Tuesday. Do your part and stand up and be counted come this 4 November. It's time.

ACD
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby cliftwood on 29 Oct 2008, 11:52

Scott..

I confess to being involved on the CMG with trying to cope with those loonies from the other side of the political spectrum but have decided to back off of the subject. Why can't I get it in my head once and for all that people's ideas on religion and politics are deeply imbedded and attempting to change that is a futile exercise??

Meanwhile, Mogs and I will spend the better part of next Tuesday driving elderly folks to the voting place so that they can do their civic duty.

I hope they pull the right lever.This nation needs to change direction after a brutul eight years.
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Re: Current Discussion (Off-Topic Chatter)

Postby mogliettina on 29 Oct 2008, 12:30

In answer to Mr. Fradale's query about Obama's credentials I ask you this sir, do you actually think that the present "President" has more capabilities in ANYTHING AT ALL?
Oh well, I take that back. He really has one very unusual talent -- he can read a kindergarten book upside down.
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