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pczipott · by **pczipott** on 06 Oct 2008, 23:53

The popular global vote is closer: 19,500-some-odd Obama, 4,000-some-odd McCain.

The result is not too surprising: after all, The Economist selects for a more educated demographic...

karlhenning · by **karlhenning** on 07 Oct 2008, 07:56

You just know that hockey moms are under-represented, there . . . .

Cheers,
~Karl

minacciosa · by **minacciosa** on 07 Oct 2008, 09:55

What about hockey dads and dads of all stick-waving propensities?

karlhenning · by **karlhenning** on 07 Oct 2008, 09:59

Hmm . . . there was a fight between a couple of hockey dads at a local school event not long ago . . . .

Cheers,
~Karl

brunnhilde · by **brunnhilde** on 07 Oct 2008, 11:04

Lulu wrote:

I lived in NY and so you do and I always wonder at how these detectives, et al. always find parking spaces wherever they go. Jeez. Even on my sister's street, we have trouble. In DC, fuggedaboutit.

I used to have a friend who lived in NYC. She was tall, blonde, curvy, wealthy, and had a beautiful spinto voice. She was a dead ringer for Kim Basinger in LA Confidential. And she was so sweet that you couldn't help but like her.

AND SHE ALWAYS FOUND A PARKING SPOT RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER DESTINATION!!!!!

Life is so unfair...

kashania · by **kashania** on 07 Oct 2008, 11:16

ACD: Is it possible to upload images in one's post?

ScottMorrison · by **ScottMorrison** on 07 Oct 2008, 16:41

kashania wrote:ACD: Is it possible to upload images in one's post?

Apparently so. :lol:

If you're using Windows, right-click on the image and then left-click on 'Copy image location' Then in the reply window (where you're composing your post to this thread) click on Img. Then paste the image location, using Control-v, between [img]and[/img] that has appeared in your message.

cliftwood · by **cliftwood** on 07 Oct 2008, 17:07

Question...

For those of you who still have some assets, I'm just curious as to what you're doing to protect yourselves? My instincts are to sell everything, take the cash and dig a hole in the backyard..then, pray a lot.

This financial chaos is really disturbing and I can't figure out who is guiding this country toward a solution.

lulu · by **lulu** on 07 Oct 2008, 18:07

I think back when Carter was president he tried to get people to have less dependence on foreign oil. And to save, save, save. None of which happened.

And the government thought those checks would help the economy.

I've known we've been in a recession for a long time and I fear we are headed for a real depression. I don't even know what to do about my 401(k) but I am putting my money in a savings account. Interest may be small but money will be safer.

This happened in great part because the watchdogs had no teeth or if they had any teeth they failed to use them. I say take 2/3 of the money from the bastards who caused this ruin. Surely it would total more than $700 million dollars that the taxpayers are being asked to fork over. Barring that, how about 94 percent tax on their earnings with no loopholes?

A.C. Douglas · by **A.C. Douglas** on 07 Oct 2008, 18:47

cliftwood wrote:Question...

For those of you who still have some assets, I'm just curious as to what you're doing to protect yourselves? My instincts are to sell everything, take the cash and dig a hole in the backyard..then, pray a lot.

This financial chaos is really disturbing and I can't figure out who is guiding this country toward a solution.

And we ain't seen the worst of it yet. Wait until that other foot comes down -- the foot no one, but NO ONE, has even mentioned yet: the collapse of the consumer credit markets; i.e., credit card debt. When that market crashes and burns, it will make what's happening now seem but a tiptoe through the tulips.

ACD

calvert · by **calvert** on 07 Oct 2008, 18:56

cliftwood wrote:For those of you who still have some assets, I'm just curious as to what you're doing to protect yourselves? My instincts are to sell everything, take the cash and dig a hole in the backyard..then, pray a lot.

Resist that instinct. Never sell into a declining market; you will be throwing your money away and the only person who will benefit will be your broker. Hold on to what you have. All economic activity is cyclical, and all bad economies eventually pick up. Your securities will in all liklihood recover their value (assuming they are in solid companies with a decent track record) if you just hold on to them.

...I can't figure out who is guiding this country toward a solution.

Nobody. And don't expect that anyone can, certainly not either of the Presidential candidates (although that will not stop them from bloviating on the subject during tonight's debate). The dirty little secret no politician running for office has the honesty to tell you is, there is very little the Federal government can do to avoid a recession. (Sending out "stimulus" checks is like farting into a hurricane.) It can, however, avoid taking actions that will only make things worse, like raising taxes (on anyone). Tax increases, particularly tax increases on The Rich, are a sure-fire way to slow things down even more than they already are.

A.C. Douglas · by **A.C. Douglas** on 07 Oct 2008, 19:54

Saw this for the first time yesterday, courtesy of AMC.

Can anyone explain to me the purpose or reason for this thoroughly imbecile venture? Considering the (justified) iconic, classic film stature of the original, it was imbecile even as a concept. Doubly so in its execution which was a pallid, even ridiculous, shadow of the original even though it was meant to be an in-earnest, verbatim reproduction of that original, but in color rather than in B&W.

ACD

karlhenning · by **karlhenning** on 07 Oct 2008, 20:46

ACD wrote:Saw this for the first time yesterday, courtesy of AMC.

Can anyone explain to me the purpose or reason for this thoroughly imbecile venture? Considering the (justified) iconic, classic film stature of the original, it was imbecile even as a concept. Doubly so in its execution which was a pallid, even ridiculous, shadow of the original even though it was meant to be an in-earnest, verbatim reproduction of that original, but in color rather than in B&W.

ACD

Heard of it, haven't seen it. Certainly cannot offer justification for it.

Cheers,
~Karl

calvert · by **calvert** on 07 Oct 2008, 20:54

ACD wrote:Can anyone explain to me the purpose or reason for this thoroughly imbecile venture?

None that I could see, other than being explicit about Norman Bates masturbating in the "peeping tom" scene. All throughout the film I kept wondering, "Who was it exactly who thought this was a good idea?"

The film did demonstrate clearly that simply re-creating a great director's work, shot by shot, can no more duplicate the great director's results than Michaelangelos' "Last Judgment" can be duplicated by a paint-by-numbers effort using exact computer mixes of the original colors. Genius is not a transferable commodity.

calvert · by **calvert** on 07 Oct 2008, 20:57

Oh, and the Psycho remake also demonstrated that when you change from black and white to color, you fundamentally alter the character of a film, and usually not for the better.

A.C. Douglas · by **A.C. Douglas** on 07 Oct 2008, 21:25

calvert wrote:
ACD wrote:Can anyone explain to me the purpose or reason for this thoroughly imbecile venture?

None that I could see, other than being explicit about Norman Bates masturbating in the "peeping tom" scene.

Oh, and speaking of contemporary-period "updates" in that imbecile remake...

1: How about upping the amount of cash stolen by Marion from $40,000 to $400,000, and still have the two stacks of bills remain about the same size as in the original; a size easily hidden by being put in a folded newspaper?

2: And how about the record found on Norman's phonograph instead of being a recording of classical music (Beethoven's Eroica symphony) as in the original the intent of which was to give further if subtle confirmation that there's really something weird about Norman, is in the remake a recording of some piece of contemporary pop trash which sends exactly the opposite message; viz., that Norman's just a "regular" guy?

ACD

A.C. Douglas · by **A.C. Douglas** on 07 Oct 2008, 21:30

Watching the presidential "debates", on and off (mostly off)...

If I just once more hear from the lips of that lying Republican the phrase, "My friends," I'm going to jump right through the TV screen, and wring that phony son of a bitch's neck.

ACD

kashania · by **kashania** on 07 Oct 2008, 22:27

ScottMorrison wrote:
kashania wrote:ACD: Is it possible to upload images in one's post?

Apparently so.

If you're using Windows, right-click on the image and then left-click on 'Copy image location' Then in the reply window (where you're composing your post to this thread) click on Img. Then paste the image location, using Control-v, between [img]and[/img] that has appeared in your message.

Thanks, Scott. If I'm correct, you posted an image from amazon. I'm wondering if there's a way of uploading an image from my own files and for which I don't have a URL.

cliftwood · by **cliftwood** on 07 Oct 2008, 22:36

ACD wrote:Watching the presidential "debates", on and off (mostly off)...

If I just once more hear from the lips of that lying Republican the phrase, "My friends," I'm going to jump right through the TV screen, and wring that phony son of a bitch's neck.

ACD

I totally agree with that sentiment, ACD. How did you like the reference to Obama of "that one"?

McCain looked like a tired old man and I'm qualified to recognize such a look.

kashania · by **kashania** on 07 Oct 2008, 22:45

ACD wrote:Watching the presidential "debates", on and off (mostly off)...

If I just once more hear from the lips of that lying Republican the phrase, "My friends," I'm going to jump right through the TV screen, and wring that phony son of a bitch's neck.

ACD

Really? I found it endearing, like I'm his friend! :roll:

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